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justnorth
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| 2/07/2005 12:13 PM |
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I am curious to know the reasons behind a Pike with a full stomach going after a small bait such as a small fathead minnow.
I had caught, what I perceived to be, an eleven pound northern while Winter fishing for crappie on a local lake. Upon cleaning the fish, I was amazed to find a large and very much alive pound crappie in the belly.
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| 2/07/2005 12:23 PM |
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Maybe the crappie was going for the minnow and the pike got him just at the same time... |
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| 2/08/2005 2:45 PM |
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| 2/08/2005 3:03 PM |
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| 2/08/2005 10:07 PM |
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I think that cooler water temps are directlty related to catching those big toothy critters. When the hot weather hits, go deep. Sometimes even when they aren't really hungry one will get them off a reactionary bite from something flashy or noisey. Try to zig when others are zagging.
I don't think that crappies are the preferred baitfish for pike. They get more bang for the buck from oily fish like ciscoe, tulibee & whitefish. When a lake doesn't hold these species one will see things like crappies, sunfish and more often times perch in the bellies of these big Jacks. |
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wadem
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| 11/18/2005 9:37 PM |
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| What triggers a pike to feed? The fish does. Pike are an extremely aggressive fish, known to take prey one third or greater the size of them. This fact makes them my favorite fish. They don't care if they are hungery, they attack out of pure instinct, the ultimate predator in our area of the world, next to the musky. wadem |
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RandyMan
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| 11/19/2005 11:58 AM |
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wadem - you are soo - correct!
Northern are like sunfish gone crazy! There are times they will feed more but for the most part they are always on the look out for an easy meal!
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| 11/20/2005 8:56 PM |
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wadem
Yea Hey!!
Thank you for the e-mail! I've attempted on two times to reply via the two e-mail addresses that you provided. However, I have been unable to successfully send them?
Please send me a new e-mail and I will try to respond as soon as possible!
Randy Man Johnson.
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wadem
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| 11/21/2005 10:30 AM |
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| Randy Man, Sorry about all the computer problems. All I know about these things is that they are not heavy enough to use as an anchor, and they are as messed up as a bunch of pipeliners on payday. (I can say that, I've been there!) If I need to leave some info here, I'll do that, otherwise, just give me a call on one of those numbers that I gave you--hope that one got there, I'll call you back on my new fancy free minutes cell thing. wadem |
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The Fisher
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| 11/21/2005 11:02 AM |
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There is something I have also seen trigger massive pike feeding frenzies, especially in Canadian waters and US waters that have high pike populations. I'm sure it may not be allowed on all waters, it might be illegal on some waters as well. Some guides I have fished with in Canada will take maybe 2 dozen large live minnows or small suckers and put them in a tin can. They then shake the bejeebers out of the little guys and throw them in the lake. They are not dead, but they are shell shocked. They then swim all over in a herky/jerky fashion and it really sets off a frenzy and a competition sets in where the pike are trying to hurry and beat the other guys to an easy meal. Of course this is done where you are sure many pike are present, say a bay soon after ice out, etc. This then has every big guy in there scurrying to snatch up whatever they can and it is an easy thing to nail some nice pike. I know chumming of dead bait is often considered littering and a ticket will be written to someone if caught. I am not sure how it would apply to fish/minnows that were still alive but "shell shocked". The guides in Canada use it alot but I would carefully check local regs before employing it as a tactic. However, if it is an allowed fishing tactic on a local body of water ,then it has shown to be a very productive way to put the pike in an aggressive mood. I guess the bottom line is the pike are then in a competitive mode for an avaialable food source--that is the key to the "frenzy" in this case--beating other fish to the easy lunch. Anything we can do to create that instinctive reaction in the fish will bring on a feeding window that we can capitalize on. Perhaps a worthwhile mental exercise---what can I do to create that response in a pike? Maybe if 3 guys are in a boat all 3 of them cast in the same target area (tree top, or whatever) at the same time and see what happens. Doing it different than everyone else sometimes pays big dividends.
Good Fishing,
Jason "The Fisher" Pence
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RandyMan
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| 11/22/2005 6:20 PM |
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 The Fisher -- Now I have a lot of different things, but I have never tried shaking the heck of a bunch of minnows and thrown back in the Lake, But you know what, as soon as I figure out if it's legal or not I'll give it a try that's for sure!
Just got off the phone with wadem what a nice guy we talked about CAT fishing and North Dakota and hopefully getting together over New Year's on either Lake of the Woods or red Lake.
Anyone interested? 
Let me know! 
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The Fisher
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| 11/23/2005 5:27 PM |
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Randyman,
Just a little off species here--but one other way I have seen this "shell shocking" of baitfish work. I have also sat over large schools of walleye with no action and had a guide do the same thing with walleye sized minnows. Make sure they are pretty dazed and throw them in. As a dozen or so minnows doing the herky jerky death twitch descend into the walleye school it often sets off this same type reaction where they are trying to get at an easy meal before the next guy. Then the whole school lets go and Katy bar the door. Is a technique used in European match fishing very successfully all the time with different baits. I would think the same thing would work for panfish using a handful of waxies or a couple crawlers cut into little pieces. A really good piece of video on this is Mick Thill's video on float fishing.
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